How could this possibly work for scar removal?
December 26th, 2009 | by admin |I’ve been pondering this advice for scar ‘improvement’ or ‘fading’ on keloids (a type of severe, sometimes continually growing, raised scarring: http://www.derm101.com/images/atlas/at002g37.jpg ):
"Virgin, unrefined hempseed oil. Use once or twice a day and you should see improvement and fading within a few weeks.
Olive Oil. Apply Olive oil (100% extra virgin) to scars at least twice a day. Within a week you should start to see scars starting to fade."
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ai3AF1b1uq8gRRMYlIb7sSuDKXRG;_ylv=3?qid=20091207192538AAnzccW
As scars are composed of concentrated quantities of collagen, any improvement would have to be due to the replacement of this collagen with skin, or the transformation of scar tissue into something that looks like skin. This sounds like quite a dramatic transformation! Do you think it’s possible for such dramatic effects to be instigated in human skin, within a week or two, using the same stuff I’ll be frying my dinner in tonight?
Sorry Janie but a story you found on the web is just that, a story. I was looking for a factual answer.
Hi Dave. No, Tony is giving false information again. It won’t have much (if any) effect on these sorts of scars. Keloid scars are over-growths of very dense fibrous tissue. Intralesional steroid injections + triamcinolone are the usual treatment and prevention- it will improve most scars.
Retinoids, bleomycin, Interferon (combined with intralesional steroid), Cryotherapy and certain laser therapy’s may help. Results vary. Problem with most of these therapies is that patients with keloid are at high risk of reproducing keloid after intervention.
With regards to the chap in the photo, he probably needs to consult a plastic surgeon. I don’t think anything applied locally will have an effect and the scarring is too severe, widespread and elevated to expect intra dermal steroids to work.
4 Responses to “How could this possibly work for scar removal?”
By Cal on Dec 26, 2009 | Reply
To put it bluntly – no. If this worked everyone would know about it! Keloid scarring can be a real problem and misinformation like this helps no one.
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By onlymatch4u on Dec 26, 2009 | Reply
Scar tissue forms because it requires less oxygen and a damaged area of the skin receives a lot less oxygen. Nutrients, like vitamin E, for example reduce the body’s need for oxygen and this is why you are told to apply it to an area to prevent scarring. Once the scar is there, it is difficult to remove.
One thing that I have seen work is to apply plant based protolytic digestive enzymes in a solution directly on the scar tissue. Taking the enzymes internally and then applying it externally definitely softens the tissue in a few days and if you keep applying it, you may see dramatic results. It’s worth a try and it is a harmless experiment with a low price tag.
good luck to you
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CNT, B.A. biology & chemistry
advanced nutritional research
By Rhianna Returns on Dec 26, 2009 | Reply
Hi Dave. No, Tony is giving false information again. It won’t have much (if any) effect on these sorts of scars. Keloid scars are over-growths of very dense fibrous tissue. Intralesional steroid injections + triamcinolone are the usual treatment and prevention- it will improve most scars.
Retinoids, bleomycin, Interferon (combined with intralesional steroid), Cryotherapy and certain laser therapy’s may help. Results vary. Problem with most of these therapies is that patients with keloid are at high risk of reproducing keloid after intervention.
With regards to the chap in the photo, he probably needs to consult a plastic surgeon. I don’t think anything applied locally will have an effect and the scarring is too severe, widespread and elevated to expect intra dermal steroids to work.
References :
By janie on Dec 26, 2009 | Reply
oh My what an awful picture.
Well, I do remember decades ago reading about someone who treated a man who was severely burned with a mass of keloid scars who use dramatically helped with the application of vitamin E squeezed from the capsules that contained the vitamin E oil.
Many oils are a source of vitamin E so maybe that is why it helps if it does.
I do know dr richard schulze said he was told when severely burned (he says 4th degreee) they told him he could never grow new skin and could never grow skin..more than one burn specialist told him this..he did tons of things including h said dipping his hand in carrot juice and fresh aloe vera and much more and he did grew skin which the doctor called "material"
He could not move it and the doctor siad he could make a bunch of incission in it and free it up but instead schule exercise it regularly..at first he could barely move it but eventually got it working.
It happened decades ago and he said he has complete use of his hand something doctors sadi he would never had and skin although it looks a little funny in spots he says. It was so bad, the doctor took tweezers after it happened and easily pulkled the whole thumb casing off to charred bone…tewndens.,skins, muscle was all destroyed and with a lot of hard work, he got the body to heal itself by doing a comprehensive program so maybe it works.
I know dr christopher had similar results–an intesting case study of two boys who burned their hands severely with a gasoline accident and the very different results they got
it is found here
I am going to repint it here in case anyone wants to read it
also his remedies are found at this link with the story
http://www.herballegacy.com/Burns_Sunburns.html
here is the story
"As a good example I would like to cite the case of two boys, about ten years of age, who were playing with gasoline and matches. Both of the boys’ hands, up to the wrists, received third degree burns. The boys were taken immediately to the hospital where the surgeon pronounced, for both boys, "incurable third degree burns"! He told both sets of parents there was a choice in each case–either removing the hands at the wrist and attaching iron claws both right and left, or, with numerous operations and skin grafts, over a period of about one year in the hospital, the boys could keep their hands, but they would be just like mummified claws and could not be used as hands, but, in a claw-like manner, they would be able to pick up materials but the fingers would not move as would the ones on the metal hand. One set of the parents told the doctor to keep their boy there and, even though it would be a year and the cost very high, to go ahead and work on him as soon as possible. The other couple told the doctor they wanted to see another person first about their boy’s condition and then they might come back.
As they had heard of our work, they brought their boy to the building when I was lecturing, to show me the boy’s burned hands. The nails, much of the flesh, tendons, etc., had been so badly burned it made one shudder to look at it. The temporary preliminary bandages were put back on while answering their request as to what could be done instead of cutting off the hands or surgery and skin grafting. I gave them a formula to use that is based on comfrey. This is a paste made up of comfrey, wheat germ oil and honey. The paste was to be spread, 1/2 to 3/4 inch thick, over the entire burn area. They were instructed to watch the paste and if it had, in any areas, been absorbed into the flesh to add additional paste in these areas, not disturbing the condition below.
Within the week they returned to the hospital and the same doctor they had seen before examined the boy. He was amazed and told them that where the burns had been third degree burns in these past few days, they were now first degree burns. He asked them what in the world they had used, and they told him it was an old-fashioned remedy. The doctor then told them to continue using it and, further, there now would be no need for any surgery or skin grafting, because it looked as though the hands would heal perfectly with this procedure without any scar tissue. In a few weeks time the boy’s hands were completely healed. Later the nails had grown back on, the tendons, nerves, muscles, flesh and skin were all renewed, and the hands were as perfect as they were before the burns.
The other boy was still at the hospital nearly a year later, with continual surgery and skin grafting. The cost was, we understand, well over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. When he was sent home his hands were two ugly "mummified-type" unbending claws, so sad-looking he wore gloves to hide them from view.
The parents that used the herbs spent approximately ten or twelve dollars for the first materials to apply (honey, wheat germ oil and comfrey) and only small amounts at times to replace the paste that was used.
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The paste can be used for cuts, abrasions, burns, bruises, sprains, and an external aid to spread the healing up of broken bones.
If kept in a wide-mouth closed jar the paste will keep in a ready-to-use condition for many months. This is one of the fine emergency first aid helps you can have on hand.
It is good to have some in your cars and in various places in the home or where you work, in case of an accident. [NL 1-8]"